SPEAKER_01: 0:00

Hey, it's Nick Hexham, and you're listening to the Son of a Blitch podcast.

SPEAKER_00: 0:20

Hey, Nick, thanks for joining me today. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_01: 0:23

Real good. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_00: 0:25

Oh man, I'm excited to chat with you about the upcoming tour. You got nothing but the truth tour in 2026, uh, kind of embarking on, you know, another phase of this. I know you started out last year. You had the three incredible EPs. Uh, you know, for those who, you know, are maybe new to hearing this solo uh music that you've kind of put out in this last year, why don't you go ahead and kind of walk us through about how you really connected with the Americana bluegrass country folk sound and decided to kind of run with that and do some recordings?

SPEAKER_01: 0:56

Yeah, so uh, you know, it's important for me to just follow the muse. If if you don't follow the muse, she will abandon you. So um I just, you know, maybe about 10 years ago, I was into super modern music, like the the most modern sounds I could think of, dubstep and these like crazy computer, like uh uh you know, uh sounds like uh an advanced civilization made it. And then, you know, the pendulum in my interest switch back to the absolute opposite, which is um timeless instruments, instruments that have existed since before rock and roll, and the simplicity, the beauty and simplicity simplicity of just going, you know, one, four, one, five chords, and um and the magic in that comes from the intimacy of the uh of the voice, the um very um um intimate intimate and vulnerable nature of the lyrics, where you're being very, you know, this one book I read um Saved by a Song by Mary Gaucher talks about you know going into the dark caves of things you don't really want to talk about and how uh people really relate when they sense that um that deep honesty when you're revealing yourself. Um so I realized there's something for me to explore. And um, and it was also so personal that it kind of need it, it just kind of needed to be like a solo um experience of just really bearing. I mean, I I think I've always tried to do that in 311, but I figured there was further to go. And um, and then that led me to old-timey instruments to pick up the mandolin. Um the pedal steel guitar is is such a dreamy sounding. I've always loved it, whether it was more of a Hawaiian style or in country. Um, and then also I heard the artist Faye Webster, who's more of like a bedroom pop kind of thing, but she gets has a lot of country sounds woven in, and a really talented um pedal steel player named Pistol, who I've become acquaintance with. And um, so that was an influence. Uh and then meeting Kenny, who I the way it started, like we know each other from like the LA Sober community. And um when I got a mandolin and I became aware of how he can play every instrument and has a master's degree in jazz guitar. So he just like he he is so has such a wide skill set. So then I I had him give me mandolin lessons, and then he came over to write a song, and that song um turned into Lonely Existence, and uh he also wrote um a bunch of songs on on the album with me. So it was just this really cool thing, and then I'm also very into uh I I think I'm like a uh what they if there's a sci-a psychological word for it, a neophiliac, somebody who loves new experiences. So when he was like, we to rehearse, we do it on a freeway off ramp, like busking. And I was like, that sounds terrifying. Let's do it. And so so that's how we started uh rehearsing. And it is so cool because you just like in an old-timey bluegrass setting where they didn't have microphones and PAs and stuff, you have to learn to project because when you're on a freeway off-ramp, there's so much traffic noise. And the times when we did it, there happened to be construction. So you have to be loud, and it really helps you work on your pipes and like, you know, direct and play guitar loud and sing loud. And um, and then certain songs like The One Lonely in Existence, where I sing really low, like a Johnny Cash, I learned to jump that up an octave and and really belt it out. Uh, and that's how I kind of started playing it live because when we play live, it's uh we do like an old-time microphone situation where it's just one mic everyone's crowded around. So it really is important to project and blend almost like you know, old-time uh Broadway or or whatever, where you you have to fill up the whole room. So it it's there was so many growth opportunities for me, and I'm really glad I did it and glad we're going out again.

SPEAKER_00: 5:49

Well, and and I can't wait to have people kind of you know see the show if they haven't already. You start the tour on January 30th. Uh you've got a whole stretch of shows. I think you got 19 dates here. Um, and you know, you're gonna be playing all these songs from Waxing Nostalgic, uh Full Memories and Waning Time. Obviously, we got a lunar theme here. Talk to me about you know what that incorporated as far as that theme. And then I know that you kind of your wife helped you out with this and they're talking about some past, present, future. What was it about these and how these connected to the songs that you wrote in kind of that thematic way? I was just kind of you know, want to kind of thread that needle.

SPEAKER_01: 6:26

Yeah, um, because uh, you know, the in exploring my psyche and the recesses of my mind, I realized that a lot of that meant looking way back. So that's why, like a song like 1978, where I'm singing about what life was like for me and my sister when when I was eight and she was 10, growing up in Omaha in a in a pre-technology type childhood, um, that was like the most nostalgic song I'd ever written. And so um, you know, uh waxing nostalgic, uh, and then that my wife and I came up with that the theme of waxing full and waning, like the phases of the moon. She's very into um ancient natural practices and um and you know Native American traditions, and so it all just kind of fit the whole thing nicely. And um, and there's I I the three EPs don't you know they don't contain exactly the different eras, but then I I kind of thematically made it towards certain songs were like looking forward, some songs were present, and some songs were uh nostalgic.

SPEAKER_00: 7:46

Well, and I know that you dive deep into a lot of territory with these songs. I mean, there's some very personal ones there that um I know, you know, obviously one about your brother Patrick who'd passed away, and you know, talking about that song where you're kind of being there for him, um, I am open. Um, and I know that, you know, one, I'm I'm sorry that you had that lost. Um, and I was kind of curious as far as like, is that one of these ones you're playing live? Is that a tough one for you? Because you said before that it's something that was very difficult to talk about, but you're able to kind of work through some therapeutic healing in that way of writing that song, which is something for a lot of songwriters. But I was curious uh as far as you know, with that one, and then we'll jump into a couple other songs that I was curious about. But yeah, what is that like for for you and and kind of when you're performing that or you know, playing that for people?

SPEAKER_01: 8:40

Yeah, so I mean, as part of getting into the brutal honesty, um, was me realizing that my natural reaction is to like hide difficult things like that away, and that this was an experience that I I needed to talk about and was also healing to have other people because it's such a prevalent thing of people who have had, you know, either lost family members or have family members that are struggling with it. I had my own, you know, need to get sober. But um and then I kind of realized that my knee-jerk reaction is just to not talk about it. So I needed to talk about it. And then also when I finally did let people know, so many people were like, I had no idea that happened. I was like, yeah, that's my defense mechanism, is to, you know, hide it away. Um, so it was it was cathartic and it was healing. And um I could I could tell it it struck a chord with people, and that's that's the best thing that art can do is to um help people relate.

SPEAKER_00: 9:50

You know, I I known a lot of people who have passed away from whether it's recreational drugs or prescription drugs, uh, from alcohol abuse. I I too am sober now, eight years, and that song was one that thank you, and congrats to your sobriety. And you know, that's something that it it hit home when people are you know vulnerable and letting you know, musicians, you know, I'm a musician myself, and I know what it's like to be able to have you sharing some of these things, and then when those audience members or or fans or or friends of yours hear that and they connect to it and you realize it's something that we we all have a lot of connections to a lot of different struggles, a lot of different highs and lows. And you know, the music is obviously just that common thread that that connects us in in such a profound way, you know. And that's one too, another song of yours, please explain. Obviously, being a father and being a uh, you know, a dad of daughters, that one really resonated to me a lot. And I'd love for you to kind of talk about that and you know how that song came to be. I know that was kind of a collaboration of sorts, and uh yeah, if you can just kind of lay that one out as well, if you wouldn't mind.

SPEAKER_01: 11:00

Yeah, so well, please explain first was a a little expression um uh kind of buzz phrase that we had around the family. When somebody would do something, you'd be like, please explain. Uh it was a bit of an inside joke, and I was like, I need to, I need to use that as a title. And then um, you know, I I already had uh worked out the the chords and made a bit of a music bed, and then I was uh introduced on kind of a a blind date, which sometimes uh you know writing sessions are, and I I love that because it's a chance to to learn. And uh my friend Pablo Matheson introduced me to Ben Queller, who is I was already a fan of him. He's a great um power pop and Americana um writer down there in in Austin. And so we got together on Zoom, and the best way that writing dates go is you just you just you kind of get to know each other for a little bit and talk about life. And you know, Ben shared with me that he had um lost a son in a car crash. And I had it just led to me talking about one of my daughters that I could tell was going through some really dark stuff, um, and needed some some coaxing to make a really safe space where she could say what was how she was really feeling. Um and in having that that sense that you you do when you can see it on their face, but they're not ready to talk about it. So you keep just gently probing and and making a safe space where they can um they can let let you know what's really going on. And um Maxine just loved it and doesn't mind that I mention her by name, and uh she's in a in a really good place right now, and we just um, you know, she she loves advanced psychological talk, and so uh that that's that's something that we've been able to to share and it and the song made us closer and and it was a very nice connecting experience with my new friend Ben.

SPEAKER_00: 13:17

Nice. Well, and you you also now I'm I'm not sure which daughter, but you you had one of your daughters play piano on one of your songs as well, right?

SPEAKER_01: 13:25

Correct. Echo plays on 1978.

SPEAKER_00: 13:28

Oh, that's pretty cool. Now she's like, I know you started out with piano like at five years old, and I think you she started at three. She's kind of like a piano prodigy, right?

SPEAKER_01: 13:36

Yeah, she's in a contest right now, uh, where she might be going to play in Carnegie Hall. So yeah, she's uh and her knowledge of theory and classics and jazz is way beyond where mine was at her age, which is 16. So it's it's really inspiring to see and it's it's fun for us to get to share.

SPEAKER_00: 14:01

Well, and it music is is is rooted in your family. I mean, it's not just passing on the generation, there's a generation behind. I know your mom is in Nashville and your Aunt Margaret there, and I know that you kind of talked about some influences there of going and seeing. Was it the auto harp that she played? Yes. And is that something that you play as well?

SPEAKER_01: 14:19

Uh yeah, I did play it on some songs on um on Phases of Hope and Hollow. I actually first got an auto harp back when 311 was making sound system, and you can hear it in the song Sever. Um but yeah, um musical family. My dad played trumpet, my mom was in a jazz band um during the summers in college, uh more of a pop kind of jazz band, which was the thing in the 50s and or early 60s. And uh, and then my older sister was a better musician than me until I really dove in about my mid-teens. And um, and she wrote 1978 with me. And my brother Zach, of course, we did that whole Nick X and Quintet album together. And he is uh very widely versed musician and doing really good um in his music career, um, scoring film and TV shows. So yeah, you know, we're just so blessed. And we we talk about that a lot. That when you get to play for a living, like when your work is play, that is like it doesn't get any better than that.

SPEAKER_00: 15:36

Well, that's something you've always I think showed up with your your gratitude and awareness and appreciation for that, that it's not those moments aren't taken for granted by you, and um, and it sounds like with your family as well. And you know, you you kind of I was kind of curious as far as like when you're talking about you know music and you mentioned like the film scoring and stuff too. Um, I'd love for you to kind of talk a little bit about SKP because these releases I think were done through SKP, which it kind of stands for escape, right? And if you could kind of maybe lay that out to folks and let them know a little bit about what you got going there, because I believe you're the co-founder and CEO of SKP, right?

SPEAKER_01: 16:10

Uh my wife is the CEO.

SPEAKER_00: 16:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 16:12

And I'm the co-founder. Uh I enjoy doing tech and business, but not as much as music. So it's like it's it's always gonna be subordinate to um being a writer and and recording artist and performer. But um, yeah, we just realized that there was um a big opportunity there to make um to streamline um distribution and give artists the tools they need to be their own label, um, because it's just such a completely different landscape. Um, with you know how before there was such a huge barrier to entry that you needed to uh a big pile of money to get a recording studio and hire a producer and print tapes and CDs and distribute them physically to the stores and and then radio had such a um you know a stranglehold on popularity and the labels had a relationship, so it was all huge barriers to entries, but those are gone now. You can take it straight to the people with TikTok and Spotify. Um, so just creating a a modern platform that helped artists do that, and um it's it it it's been it's been a lot of fun to help artists like myself become major label escapees, and that's where the name came from.

SPEAKER_00: 17:40

That's awesome. Well, you know, you you you mentioned earlier a book that was influential to you, and I know that you've talked about another one too, and that's Rick Rubin's book here. And you kind of it kind of like you, I think you said it kind of gave you a permission in a sense through reading this of being able to put out this music and be able to share some things that deviated from maybe what people kind of have had known you from as your musical style uh through 311 and and some other things you've done before. But I was kind of curious about this book because I I found it was absolutely profound. And I mean, Rick Rubin is kind of what what a sage. Um, and some of these things too, about just kind of getting things out. And, you know, I'd I'd love for you to explain on how that book was influential and maybe played a part in some of these songs coming into existence and being shared.

SPEAKER_01: 18:26

Yeah, I mean, he says so many great things, like uh Peanut actually sent me a clip of him saying this recently that audience comes last. And people are like, what? The fans come because the best way to serve the fans is to put your creativity and expression first. Because I've always known you can't make a great song like in a focus group where you're like play a chord. Hey, you guys like this one? Oh no, you like this one? It's like it's just it's gonna be so bland. Like you have to just follow the muse. Um, so yeah, he talks about that. And um he also just talks about perfectionism is ego. So you just have to have courage, just put it out, you know, work on it until it's uh good enough and then and then abandon and move on to the next thing and just put it out. Um, because people, you know, we've all heard of different artists that just have been working on albums forever and they just get locked up in this perfectionism, and that's depriving yourself of that communication. Um so just abandon pieces once once you got them in a place that's good enough and and frequent releases. And the thing that I came up with along that line is that quantity begets quality. The more quantity you make, the quality will get better. And I like to look at it as a spiritual practice that um I'm responsible for picking up the guitar and picking up the pen. And then uh another higher power is responsible for the quality of it. So I'll take care of the quantity. Something else will take care of the quality. And, you know, my higher power is love. So if I just show my instruments some love, something good's gonna happen. I don't know if it's gonna be great or good enough or whatever. I'll I'll just let that, you know, society or my fans figure out whether it really connects with them or not. But um yeah, and I also realized that I wanted to put out music very frequently. Uh, and it's in 311, everyone's kind of got different lives and stuff. And I'm sure we did recently put out music and we'll be putting out more music. But then there's also maybe I want another separate avenue to do things more frequently than other people had the desire to do.

SPEAKER_00: 20:54

Well, and if you don't put that idea out there, the next one is stuck in a log jam, right? So it's kind of you got to release that. And then also the cool thing about being in a collaborative partnership with um, you know, the other your your buddies in 311 there is like being able to maybe bring some of these new ideas and songs to the table or feels, which I know that you've kind of talked about there's kind of an evolution of some really like kind of some heavier stuff and also some softer stuff that's coming in and some of the new 311 tunes. And you know, I don't want to spend too much time kind of diving into that because I want to kind of focus on on your solo stuff here, but I I did have to, you know, make mention too, because during your tour, there's a little time where you're gonna have to take off for your 311 day. Now, I was at one of the very first 311 days at New Orleans back in the early 2000s, and I know uh how amazing that is for all of your your friends and and fans. And this one here in Las Vegas, the seventh and the eighth of March, has a something that I needed to just discuss with you, and that's the collaboration with Blue Man Group. Now I tried out to be a blue man, that was something that I yeah, I you know, I'd showed up in Boston to House of Blues thinking I was gonna be the blue man, and it was actually for the drummer of the band, and the guy from like uh Berkeley School of Music, the head of drums, played before me. And then the guy afterwards is like, Do you want the sticks? I'm like, no, no, and you know, it's like there's no way. But I I I felt like I missed part of my calling in doing that. I'd absolutely love it. And I saw you guys are doing collaboration, so I don't know if you can give away too much or maybe hint at this, but what does that look like? How did that come to be? And what might people expect from the blue man inclusion in the 311 day concerts?

SPEAKER_01: 22:31

Yeah, I'm uh I'm gonna leave most of it a surprise. Fair enough. But I I've been a fan of them just because when we go to Vegas for um for 311 day, I bring the family and we try and you know check out different shows, whether it's like one of the Cirque de Soleil ones or Blue Man Group or um Jabber Walkies or a Magician or whatever. So uh I I've seen them a bunch of times. I was like, this is so creative. And then um, and the last time I went to see them, they were uh down to have me backstage afterwards, and it just it it happened really organically. I was like, you and us could jam. And they were like, love it, let's go. So it was just uh really easy, and it's gonna be fun as we you know rehearse to work out all the the cool stuff with them. So looking forward to that as well.

SPEAKER_00: 23:23

Oh man, well, yeah, I'll I'll definitely have the links and everything below. People want to check that out and go out there. It's it's a phenomenal time, great music, great friendship, fellowship. And I know you guys have like a 311 museum too that you'll be you know debuting this year for the first time, so that'll be kind of fun. Right. Um, you you had a something that you said that really kind of hit me at the very beginning of the year. You wished everyone an awful new year. And I'd love for you to explain that because it's uh phonetically, it's a little different than than uh the spelling and what what that means. But uh, if you'll drop that out, I I'd love to kind of discuss that.

SPEAKER_01: 23:57

Yeah, so so many of the psychological books and things that I've been reading, especially the work of Jonathan Haidt, um, talk about um cultivating awe in your life. And awe is uh an emotion that is kind of a combination of joy and surprise. And it's like the the most spiritual of emotions, and you know it when you feel it, and um you get it from a great piece of art, you get it from um music when you're locked in with uh, you know, whether it's other people at a concert or your bandmates. Um, and I get it from being outside a lot. I love, you know, working outside and um exploring and you know, being with my dogs or taking care of animals. I just I get you you you get little doses of awe and um and that can really stay with you to give you um, you know, it's more effective than antidepressants. It's like can really stay with you to um help you find enjoyment of life, of getting out of the rat race. And you know, stop and smell the roses is a really perfect little cliche for what cultivating awe is in life. Um, I was just foraging for mushrooms and cooking them up the other day. I'm getting ready to put a video together for for Instagram. Um and then I was like, but awful, wouldn't that be like beautiful, like containing awe? And it turns out that it was the original meaning. Awful meant full of awe, but um, and then it and awesome meant something that was very scary. Um but then at some point when people use words ironically, then the names or the the meanings can switch. Um, and awful became bad and awesome became good when it had the opposite thing before that. So I was using it in the in the old timey original definition of the word of wishing people an awful new year. It was just let's let's cultivate awe and have a year that's full of awe.

SPEAKER_00: 26:05

Well, I'd I I hope you have an awful year. Um, I love that idea. And um, I this is a year that I I feel like is just gonna be phenomenal uh for so many people I know. There's there's so much that's that's kind of at our fingertips of kind of building a legacy. And that's actually a thing that that I've talked to a lot of my guests about as far as their legacy and you know, people who have kind of left an imprint in this world, whether it's an artist, whether it's a uh you know, a writer, a musician, whatever it may be. I was kind of curious about your take of you know, legacy. And as you're I mean, you have you know 30 whatever years now, 35 plus years of of you know having music that you've shared, and now there's new eras of your artistic life that are coming out. And I know that you talked also about writing a book. And is that I guess you know, first to answer that question, is that something that is on the horizon here? Is that a 2026 awful book that's coming out? What does that look like?

SPEAKER_01: 27:07

I mean, that's one of those things that I'm um summoning up the courage to really get started. I've I've had little ideas about the narrative, the title, um, and you know, how I would actually go from zero to one on that project. Um, I won't say that I've actually gotten started other than just some sort of musing, but um, I know that uh uh is going to happen at some point. And um, you know, we're all just standing on the shoulders of giants. We're all just taking all what we've learned from the greats and adding to it and reorganizing it, whether you're an author or a musician or a painter or whatever, nobody just invents stuff completely out of thin air. So um that's what a book for me would would would be. It would be just sharing my experience and adding things that I've learned. And um I'm gonna do it one day.

SPEAKER_00: 28:12

Nice. Well, I'd I'd I love the idea of you sharing, you know, some of your your stories, lessons, experiences, and like you've done with with your music here uh at these EPs and you know, kind of the the whole vinyl, which you can get only at shows, um, and being able to kind of get a sense of, I mean, some of these are very personal, very powerful songs that are, I mean, they're they've been therapeutic for you. Um, and I and as the listener as well, I know they are. Um, and there's also some inclusion of uh of some cover tunes there. And you know, before we depart, I'd love to kind of ask you as far as like those particular songs, that what was it about those songs that spoke to you that made you want to like, I want to write this, I'm gonna put this out here and and share with your volume of you know, some of these very intimate songs you've put out.

SPEAKER_01: 29:04

Sure. So I would say a couple notable ones. You know, I've always loved Billy Holiday and the Duke Ellington pinned Solitude, sometimes known as In My Solitude. Um just is always such a beautiful portrait of um yearning for someone. And then to have, you know, Kenny from Watertower helped me come up with this um more of an Americana version, kind of fusing a couple of my it's still old-timey, but bringing the jazz into Americana with a pedal steel, um, just was uh something really delightful because uh exploring my roots, uh that it was a way of not just talking about what life was like back then, but also um re-examining and and um doing a a new take on some songs that really influenced me. Um Harry Nielsen's Everybody's Talking. Um it's just the way he kind of goes into what it can be like when you're stuck in your head and you can't quite make out what people are saying. Like that song just always spoke to me. So doing a dreamy version of that, and that's only available on the vinyl, so um, you know, can be uh picked up at the show. And uh and then live we we do a song called Um Swallow, The Swallow Will Fly Free, which was we had like one bluegrass album growing up was this guy Larry McNeely, and it was very much like Watertower type setup, just like you know, a banjo and mandolin and acoustic guitar and guys singing. And uh I just loved that song, and um and I kind of rewrote the lyrics a little bit to be about um you know my my grandma and her influence, and because you know, she's from the Nashville side of the family, so that's something that we do live. We actually did make a recording of it. Um put that out one day. We did it at a studio, so yeah, it's just been another fun thing to explore my roots and and share that with people. And going forward, um I think I'm I think the the solitude sound is something I want to explore more. Now, I as I said, following the muse, getting more into old-timey jazz sounds, where you know, there was there was a time when rock and country and jazz, they they weren't these divisions and delineations that we have today. There's crossover between those styles. So I want to explore those. You know what I mean? Like something that's a little bit of this, a little bit of that, and maybe from the from the 1940s type of uh um sound to patina to it. So uh it's just it's a never-ending journey, and that's kind of where I feel a calling to go next.

SPEAKER_00: 32:14

Well, I'm excited to see whatever you put out next. I'm excited for folks to be able to go and see uh the tour if they haven't already, you know, caught one of the legs of it in 2025 to go see. You got 19 dates to choose from. Check out the show notes below for the you know the show that's gonna be closest to you. Make sure you get out there. Uh, you know, obviously Water Tower opening up and then you guys all coming out together. It's gonna be phenomenal. Uh, look forward to seeing that. And, you know, before we leave, I'd I'd love for you to kind of maybe take a minute to, you know, share what you'd like to for your your friends, your family, the supporters, all those who have kind of, whether it's been in your corner or those who you have kind of held you up at different times and and you know, those who have really made an impact on your life, I'd love, you know, if you have a message that you'd like to share to them, you know, your fans as well. Um, as you're kind of, I know that there's a lot that's going on. There's a lot that you're feeling and a lot that you've been sharing. And I was just kind of curious what uh words of gratitude you might like to share to them.

SPEAKER_01: 33:11

Absolutely. Like keeping an attitude of gratitude is such an important thing for um my my mental health. And it and it's something you can cultivate, just like cultivating awe. And so um, you know, Thursdays are thankful Thursdays, and I do a gratitude list and just taking stock of of how blessed I am. And that really comes down to um the patient open-mindedness of um of the fans and the supporters, and you know, my wife helping me with the project and these new collaborators that I made. And I'm gonna be jamming with some new people later this week. And um and the same thing for my my bandmates in 311. Like what a great group of dudes that I was blessed and stumbled into. Like the fact that we just came from this random place and oh, I've got to do this, you know, just getting back from Latin America and you know, third coming on our 36th year anniversary will be in June. Like, I I truly grateful and truly blessed. So thank you, and thank you to you for having these the thoughtful questions. You've obviously been paying attention for a long time. So much appreciated.

SPEAKER_00: 34:30

Oh, well, cheers, man. Well, I I I appreciate you coming on and and appreciate you sharing your talents with the world and being an inspiration for those, you know, artists and that are out there sharing obviously uh so much. And you know, I I know that you put a lot into uh these songs, and I'm really excited for people to be able to hear those um and note to anybody listening. Put your phone down and just be in the moment, please. Um, these songs are powerful and uh you don't need a distraction or a filter. Just be there and uh let it hit your heart and your mind, your soul. And uh Nick, thank you so much again for joining me. Um, for those who are ready to go get tickets if they haven't already, they're ready to go check out this music. Uh, why don't you go ahead and tell them your socials, your website, and uh kind of where to where to send them?

SPEAKER_01: 35:13

Yeah, it's all at nickhexum.com. And I'm Nick Hexum is my handle on the the major socials, Twitter or um Instagram. I think I'm Nickhexum311 on TikTok. And but uh yeah, I'd love to it really means a lot to me when people show up at the shows, and I'll be hanging out after the shows, meeting people, signing merch, taking pictures, whatever it is. So it's it's also a bit of a meet and greet.

SPEAKER_00: 35:42

And I and I assume there's got to be some storytelling involved too with this, right? And I mean that's kind of a feel that I can't.

SPEAKER_01: 35:47

Yeah, there's way more talking than at a at a normal 311 show, right? Tell the backstories of the of the songs and stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 35:54

That's great. Well, uh an intimate you know, situation and scenario. I cannot wait. Um, thanks again for joining me. And uh yeah, man, we'll uh we'll meet up down the road.

SPEAKER_01: 36:04

This was fun. Thanks so much.

SPEAKER_00: 36:05

Thank you. Appreciate you, man. Right on.