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Son of a Blitch
Ep. 108 - Jack Carr takes us behind the scenes of The Terminal List: Dark Wolf & his upcoming 9th book, Cry Havoc
In our recent conversation, Jack Carr provided fascinating insights into the upcoming prequel series "The Terminal List: Dark Wolf" and his ninth novel "Cry Havoc," both of which deepen the rich storytelling world he's created.
"Dark Wolf," premiering August 27th on Amazon Prime, explores the origin story of Ben Edwards, the complex character brilliantly portrayed by Taylor Kitsch in the original Terminal List series. As Carr explained, this prequel was born from the unexpected depth Kitsch brought to the role, elevating the character beyond how he was written in the books. The series begins in Mosul, Iraq in 2015, following Edwards as a Navy SEAL whose journey eventually leads him into the shadowy world of CIA operations.
What makes this series particularly special is the exceptional team assembled both in front of and behind the camera. Carr emphasized the family-like atmosphere created by Chris Pratt, director Antoine Fuqua, and showrunner David DiGilio. This collaborative spirit has attracted talented professionals who genuinely want to bring their best to the project.
The commitment to authenticity is a cornerstone of Carr's creative approach. He describes their goal as "80% authenticity, 20% Hollywood hot sauce" – getting the details right while still crafting engaging entertainment. This meticulous attention extends to his upcoming novel "Cry Havoc," which presented unique challenges as historical fiction set in 1968 Vietnam.
Carr detailed the extensive research required to write authentically about this period, needing to examine everything through the lens of 1968. His dedication to historical accuracy and his level of immersion creates a rich, believable world that serves as the foundation for his espionage narrative.
"Cry Havoc" introduces readers to Tom Reese, James Reese's father, during his time with MAC V SOG in Vietnam. This expansion of the Reese family lineage, along with the Hastings family, opens opportunities for exploring generational stories of service and sacrifice.
Beyond his creative outputs, Carr's commitment to veterans and independent bookstores demonstrates his values in action. He shared touching stories about his work with the Best Defense Foundation, which brings World War II veterans back to the battlefields where they served. Having these heroes attend premieres and after-parties creates powerful connections between generations. His innovative "signed and shot-through" editions of his books, available exclusively through independent bookstores, provide collectors with unique items while supporting small businesses challenged by online retail giants.
Throughout our conversation, Carr's humility and gratitude were evident. He attributes his success to readers who took a chance on him and shared his books with others, creating a grassroots movement that preceded any major media coverage. This appreciation for his audience drives his engagement across social media and his Danger Close podcast, where he features authors and interesting personalities.
Jack Carr's expanding universe of stories – from books to television series – continues to captivate audiences while honoring the service and sacrifice of military personnel. His work maintains the authenticity, depth, and respect that have become his signature as a storyteller.
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This is Jack Carr and you are listening to Son of a Blitch.
Speaker 2:Hello Jack, welcome back to the podcast. How are you man?
Speaker 1:Great and it's wonderful to see you. We're just talking about those arrowheads behind you and that looks amazing, so cool from their properties in Texas, right there they are, they are.
Speaker 2:These are all surface finds over the years. I mean, I'm looking behind you, boy. What an assortium of books here, amazing. Yeah, I mean, that's the foundation for everything.
Speaker 2:That's right, that's right. Well, I got. My cornerstone of my foundation right now is your books here. We've got eight on the shelf. The ninth one's coming out, cry Havoc, soon. But you know I want to get into chatting with that. But I really want to dive into the Terminalist. Dark Wolf airs August 27th. Man, this is kind of a prequel story telling a little bit of the history of Ben Edwards. You just dive in.
Speaker 1:Give us a little taste, a little plot synopsis there for those who may not be familiar. Yeah, well, actually we did the premiere a couple weeks ago in New York and so I got to see it on the big screen for the first time, because I've only seen it on this very computer that we're talking through right here, and it was just such a different experience to see it on the big screen last week. It was so cool. I really hope in the future we can take the first two episodes and get them out there as theatrical releases, Cause we're filming it in what we call Cinevision, uh, just like the first season, so it's really meant to be a movie, cause that's how we're filming it. So to give people an option like maybe the week before it comes out on streaming, give those first two episodes and select theaters around the country at least to test it out and uh, and to get people talking about it a week ahead of time. So I think that'd be a really cool thing to do. But yeah, after the first one it was the numbers. They'll never share exactly what the numbers were, that they'll never share exactly their data, but we know they were extremely happy over there at Amazon with the first season. So it became their number one show that midsummer period and they wanted more and I'd already been thinking about another show and so I wrote up a little executive summary about that spinoff, kind of building out the universe.
Speaker 1:And then Chris called me with this other idea of doing a similar thing, but with the Ben Edwards character, which is something I hadn't considered, because Taylor brought so much depth and humanity to that role, way better than it was done in the book, in the first book that I did. And we were wondering like, hey, if Taylor wants to do this, if the other EPs want to do this, amazon wants more. Chris's schedule is pretty booked up for the next few years before we can dive into True Believer. Let's see if, let's test the waters. And sure enough, taylor went, wanted to explore what. What would bring his character to the point that he does, the things that he does in the terminal list. It's like what is that journey from a SEAL teammate, a brother in arms, to what he does in that first season? So that was worth exploring.
Speaker 1:So we got David Giglio, the showrunner, jared Shaw, my buddy from the SEAL teams, who's also a writer, executive producer, actor, plays Boozer on the show and tactical advisor came out here just the room right there and we beamed Max Adams in, who's a former Army Ranger, via Zoom and started putting this thing together and came up with this plot that kicks off Ben Edwards' journey into the CIA and kind of the dark side of his soul as well.
Speaker 1:So that was what kicked it all off and I think it's better than the first season, like that's always the goal. It's all the books like that are behind you right there and my goal is for every book to be better than the one before it. Just like in life and we're in the SEAL teams my goal is to always be a better operator and leader today than I was yesterday. So I'm so excited to get this show out on the 27th and then hopefully, true Believer will be even better than Dark Wolf. So that's always the goal learn from those lessons of the past and then apply them going forward as wisdom to make an even better show for everybody. So I'm pretty fired up.
Speaker 2:Right on, man. Well, I'm excited to check it out. Let's dive in a little bit about Ben Edwards. Obviously, he's a Navy SEAL, and then there's a split-second decision that kind of changes the course of him and kind of leads him into the black ops world and working with the CIA, where he meets Rafe, who we see in future books and probably future series events here. So why don't you kind of just kick it off with that? Where is this taking place? What's happening? Kind of just draw us into that, if you wouldn't mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he already knows Rafe, so they're in the SEAL teams together in a SEAL platoon and that's where we find them in. We find them in Mosul, iraq, in 2015. That's where this kicks off. So it's a prequel, origin story. So it goes back and into this, uh, uh, this world of the, of the CIA and Mossad, and has a ran woven in there, and it's uh, uh and so so it really takes a different turn, as different visually as well, um, and it's uh, so, so, yeah, so so it's uh.
Speaker 1:Introduces characters Ray Hastings, which is a fan favorite character from the books. He gets introduced to now in dark wolf and we're filming true believer right now, um, with him in it as well and uh, then we get to meet landry, jules landry from the, uh, the books. People will remember him maybe from uh, from true believer, and how he meets his, his. I shouldn't say that. I won't give any spoilers for you. He has a. There's a memorable scene with jules landry and uh in true believer that people don't think we're going to film for the show. So, uh, people are so negative online immediately They'll never do this. You know, like the first comment someone made. But, uh, we'll stand by. How about that. Uh, so, uh, so, yes, you meet some of these characters that are going to be in the show.
Speaker 1:Uh, mo Farouk gets introduced in dark wolf and he continues on into Believer as well, and we've really become like a family. It might be trite to say that, but I have people that have come up to me on set who've been involved in hundreds of Hollywood productions and they say that they've never felt like this on a set before. And we all hang out afterward. We all go to dinners, go drinking together, go play sports together, work out together, and it's really cool. It's a really. It's really cool. It's really really special thing that and that's all really due to Chris, chris Pratt and David Agilio, the showrunner, antoine Fuqua, who set this tone that really makes everybody want to bring their A game because they know that they're getting taken care of. And it's a. It's really really cool to see.
Speaker 2:What was it like being back on set there with that family, for you personally?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it it's. Everybody wanted to get back together and uh, and we made it, made it happen, and it's just like a continuation, actually conflate now. So first season, dark wolf, and now true believer, that we're uh filming for about the next couple, next two months probably, and then we're going to post production on that should come out next summer. You never really really know. I don't have a date yet on that, but I would guess it would come out out next summer. And so now I can flate between the two because it's the same essentially cast crew. You bring the same people, same armorers, same costume people, makeup people. They want to be part of this show and want to stay with us, which is so cool. So it's awesome to be back together. We have so much fun and everybody wants to make the best show we possibly can, and that's really the yeah, that's really the really the goal. And uh, and I just feel so fortunate that we put such a good, solid team together Uh, really couldn't, couldn't imagine it being any better than it is.
Speaker 2:Well, one thing I wanted to talk to you about, like that team, is that it's comprised of a lot of veterans. I mean this whole series like a love letter to the men and women of service and I've heard that said before by many of the folks who are involved. But you guys give back so much and there's so much involvement with veterans. I think it's five of the seven different episodes are written by veterans, including yourself there. Thank you for your service and I wanted to kind of dive into that. As far as the involvement of veterans and making sure that there's a level of authenticity that's like no other onset, because that's something that people talked about and you know the original terminal list about how authentic and amazing it was for people of service to see that and know that you guys took the time to make it right yeah, you know it's not a documentary, obviously it's.
Speaker 1:it's completely made up, it's fictional. But if you get those details right so that people who went down range to Iraq and Afghanistan or people who are, uh, let's say, police officers or firefighters or EMS of some sort, they can see that you got the details right. So, even though they know the story is fictional, they're not pulled out of it because they see someone, like covering their body with a finger on the triggers or going through a door or something along those lines. So we really try to get those details right, try to get the mindset, in this case, of modern day warrior right, make that authentic and if you do that, then that fictional story springs from that foundation of authenticity. So that's when we say it's authentic. That's really what we're going for and it's when we try to go for about 80% authenticity, 20% Hollywood hot sauce, as Chris Pratt likes to say, because you have to move that story forward.
Speaker 1:You have, in this case, seven one-hour episodes. Each one of those episodes has its own arc and then there's an overarching arc throughout the whole thing. You have constraints for budget, for actor availability, locations, like so many different constraints there, which is very different, obviously, than writing a book where there are no constraints at all. You can do whatever you, whatever you want, um, so it's, uh, it's. It's really cool to to see it all come together. I walk into it as a student. I'm always a student of, a student of warfare before I'm a student of of these mediums now, uh, and like I said, we're going to make this the next show better than the one before it, make the next book last spring before this one. So it's always the goal for all of us. But getting those details right on the authenticity piece, that means a lot to everybody that's involved. So we really spend a lot of time on that side of it, and I'm sure someone will take a screenshot somewhere. That'll have something wrong, but it's not for lack of effort, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:Oh, indeed, well, I also. I also wanted to talk about another veteran related thing. I saw recently a video with Chris Pratt, taylor Kitsch, talking about the Brain Treatment Foundation Valor Mission Project. I know you've done a lot of work with the Best Defense Foundation. You know you guys are giving back in a lot of those ways too, and if you want to talk a little bit about that and maybe some of the personal you know groups that you support and maybe, uh mentioned, about the best defense foundation having World War II vets at the premiere as well, cause I know that is just a phenomenal thing the greatest generation Absolutely by far.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was really cool. So, uh, we had the first season, also terminalist when that's premiered in LA in 2022. Uh, we had veterans from World War II there. Uh, been involved in the best defense foundation for the past few years Now daughter's been involved with. I got to take her to pearl harbor that was the first one that she went went to um and then to normandy.
Speaker 1:Multiple times she went to market garden, uh, netherlands, um, taking world war ii veterans back to the battlefields on which they fought, and it's really cool thing to see especially them interact with her generation. Um, because when she first did it she was 15 or 16 and, uh, she's helping these guys in and out of their wheelchairs, getting them on and off the buses, making sure they're taking their medicine, making sure they're eating, getting them to their rooms, picking them up in their rooms, getting them down to the buses to go to the events. Old, telling someone who's 16, 17, 18, 19, and now 20 what it was like to come off the landing craft while they were sitting there on Omaha Beach and them being able to point out to her where the landing craft was, where they ran at the base of the cliff and that's. You know they won't be around for too much longer. So to see those pass along as a dad, it's like it makes me very, it is, uh, it makes me very, very proud to to see that.
Speaker 1:So to have these guys at the premiere also was so, it was so cool. And some of them came to the after party to see these guys there, you know, 101, 102 years old, uh, at the at the after party. It was just so, so cool. Um, but yeah, best defense foundation people can can check that out and and great work being done by Donnie Edwards and Catherine Edwards, his wife. They just do such a great job with these guys and it's a debt obviously we can never fully repay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, you guys honor them well and it was, I'm sure, an honor to be spending more time with them, every single experience you get. I was wanting to know about another experience. Is there another cameo that you have in this show, because we know that you were in the first one? What about this show? Because we know that you were in the first one, what about?
Speaker 1:this one. Give us a little teaser here. Let's see, I say keep your eye out. Keep your eye out Maybe more than once. Oh, all right, maybe, yeah. Yeah, you have to have a sharp eye.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no-transcript, little bit of that travel Cause I know you're you're still kind of getting back and set here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's great. We, uh, yeah, started filming in March, I think, um, and but, yeah, three different countries so far, but the fourth coming up here on it for for true believer, Um, and so, yeah, going global with this thing. And, uh, I saw the first episode the other night because we filmed it obviously a few few months ago. So you start getting these things in before you're done filming the whole series, cause it takes so long to do these. Uh, so I got to watch that the other night and it is awesome. Uh, and there's hardly any notes, like I see hardly any edits in it. Um, but some We'll tighten it up, I'm sure, but I think it's good to go as it is. It's so good. I'm fired up for people to see that and, like I said, that should be next summer.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm excited for that one as well. Can't wait to see this continue on and continuing on. You've got your ninth book about to come out Cry Havoc, october 7th. Why don't you walk us a little bit of that? Because I know in this we're kind of getting the origin story of Ben Edwards with Dark Wolf and there's a little bit of an origin story here with Tom Reese, james Reese's father as far as Cry Havoc, and I want you to kind of lay that out. Give us a little synopsis. Where are you bringing us there in 1968? And let's roll with that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So the book was supposed to come out in June and that's coming out in October now because I didn't really anticipate how much extra work it was going to take, how much extra time it was going to take to write every sentence through the lens of 1968. So I didn't want to have this benefit of 50 plus years of hindsight and incorporate that into different characters perspective on events in 1968. I really wanted to have their life experience up to that point, no matter what they, what they were, whether you're a GRU agent from the Soviet Union or you're a French doctor working in Saigon, or you're somebody in Mac V Saag or you're a businessman in Saigon, whatever character you are, I wanted your life experience up to that point in 1968 to be the only perspective you'd be able to give on an event or take to a certain problem set. So that ended up taking a lot longer than I expected, but the first review came out this morning on the Real Book Spy so people can check that out and it's a good one. So you never know until you get it out there. I mean, you pour your heart and soul into these things and you never really know until it gets out there. But his review is amazing. He says it's the best book of the year and um, just couldn't be, uh, yeah, couldn't be, yeah, more humbled by the review and and thankful for it as well.
Speaker 1:Um, but yeah, 1968, vietnam, tom reese, mac v sog. It's really, really an espionage story that's set in saigon, 1968. So it's uh, I haven't really seen that done in a while. So there's the some. Some inspiration for it comes from the quiet american by graham green, and um, uh, uh, there's a couple other ones out there Tears of Autumn by Charles McCary, so those kind of ones, but they're older, they're the ones from the 50s and the 70s right there. So I hope it hasn't been done in a while.
Speaker 1:And I wanted to really set an espionage story in the past, and not just in Washington or Moscow, but in Saigon, so in really the hot zone of the Cold War. And, yeah, I couldn't be more thrilled with how it came out and it really turned into more historical fiction because it took so much and you're just making it up. It's not contemporary, it's not contemporary. So you have to go back and look at the names of streets you know and how they've changed. What were they when the French took over. What were they when? Now, and if I'm looking up something, oh no, this is from post 75. So that's not right. So I have to.
Speaker 1:It took a lot of a lot of time, but but yeah, I'm fired up to get that out there. And from the very beginning I made sure that I put in, or I hinted at, compelling characters that people would want to read about later, so mainly the Reese family and the Hastings family Rafe Hastings' dad and grandfather and James Reese's dad and grandfather as well. So I wanted to have options to explore these different family lineages out there. And so this is the first book in something like that, and for how much time it took, I don't know. It might be the only one, I'm not sure yet. That took a lot out of me this this last year, but uh, yeah, out there October 7th and uh, yeah, I'm fired up.
Speaker 2:Well, and it's right on the heels of an actual historical book you wrote targeted Beirut there with James Scott, and I know that that was well-received and that's something you've talked about maybe doing a little bit more of. I know you've got so many irons in the fire. Have you started to work on the next book with him, or a next historical book in that realm? I'm just kind of curious what that looks like it'll come out in 2026 or 2027.
Speaker 1:It all depends on how long it takes to do these interviews and go to a couple of places, walk some ground and then get the story together. So we'll see, but 2026 or 2027 will be the second in the targeted series.
Speaker 2:A lot to look forward to. You know, when we were talking about Cry Havoc a second ago, I wanted to make mention too. One thing that you do is you're supporting local bookstores, independent bookstores, by having a signed and shot through edition. Can you tell people a little bit about that and where they can go on your website to go ahead and order those? I got my copy reserved. I can't wait. I love having any time that they've come out. I love supporting local bookstores. I think it's super important. And, yeah, if you just want to go ahead and plug that, if you wouldn't mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it started during COVID when everyone was locked down. These smaller independent bookstores were locked down to foot traffic essentially, so I was trying to think what I could do to help support them during COVID. So I started with these book plates, which, for those listening or watching, they're essentially large stickers that you sign and put into a book, and I had some artwork done on those so you could only get them from these independent bookstores if you wanted them. To kind of make a collector's thing, give people an incentive to go to these independent bookstores, even though it might take a couple extra minutes, and rather than hitting the easy button on Amazon you know that's obviously very quick, but you can't get one of these things there and Amazon so did that. Everything sold out right away.
Speaker 1:Did that again for the next book, the devil's hand, and then the one after that. Um was, uh, uh was in the blood, and that's really a sniper centric novel of violent resolutions. That's what. That was the theme that guided that uh, that writing process, and uh, and so I did.
Speaker 1:I decided I'd do something different for that one because it was a sniper centric book, and uh, and wanted to shoot through a title page and Simon and Schuster had never done something like that before.
Speaker 1:So they sent out a bunch of paper that's the same thickness as a, as a uh, as a paper that goes gets bound into the book.
Speaker 1:And then I did some experimentation with different calibers and how many of those I could put together to shoot through, and then sent them back to Simon and Schuster and they did a test run and to see if it would muck up the printing process or not, and so figured out what uh, what calibers work, how many pages I can stack together.
Speaker 1:So I stack 50 together, put them between two pieces of cardboard, wrap it really tight and then in this case I shot through it with a car 15, uh, a clone from Colt. So it's the same type of a rifle that the guys used primarily in Mac V SOG in uh in Vietnam going into Laos, cambodia and other places as well. So I shot through those title pages and signed them and sent them back to Simon Schuster. And now the independent bookstores that are linked on my website are the only places that you can get those. So it's just a way for me to continue to support those independent bookstores that are really up against it when it comes to Amazon and all the distractions that are out there that are keeping people from reading today.
Speaker 2:Those bookstores are kind of the origin story of how you got involved with writing and having these books that meant so much to you and, you know, also wanting to be a Navy SEAL at the age of seven, I mean, this is something that it goes way back and I know you always have, you know, so much honor that you're placing on previous authors who have inspired you and, you know, in that kind of makes me think about like legacy, and that's the question I had for you. Um, as far as how you view your legacy, I mean, obviously, your years of service, uh, your years of writing, all the different stories you've brought together, but you just kind of, maybe you tell me, is that something you kind of think about on a day to day? Is that something? That something that comes to your mind and you know, seeing all these different authors that you, you know, paid homage to, you know what is it about? Your thoughts about what you're leaving behind for others?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't really think about it in terms of legacy. I think of it in terms of improvement, doing it better for the next book than the last book. So, and just doing it as long as people want to keep reading them, just continuing to write, to branch out into the nonfiction there's a couple other things I want to branch out into as well and just keep building. So for me, really, it's about more about building than it is really thinking about legacy. But also I do think about creating readers, because it was such so influential on to me in my life and instrumental in what I did in the SEAL teams and beyond. It all really comes from a foundation of reading.
Speaker 1:So today, when there are so many forces out there that are keeping people from reading, especially younger kids, and it's those formative years, you know, let's say between, let's say I don't know, eight and 18, or eight and 20, or 10 and 20, like somewhere in there that kids just aren't reading. Now they're not even watching TV and going to the movies really anymore. It's a different thing. It's all through this distraction device called the phone, which is now doing our thinking for us, of course, when we're talking about AI and where that's headed, so just trying to bring people back to the analog way and to books and reading, because really that's for me, that's been the foundation of all of this reading. Um, because really that's for me, that's, uh, it's been the foundation of, of all of this.
Speaker 2:Indeed. Now I just kind of want to close this out. Is there anything that you'd like to say to your friends, your family, your fans, all those that have supported you over these years? Uh, so many amazing projects you've been a part of, and you know so big of a family that you have continued to create with all this amazing cast and different folks. You know, david Brown, all the amazing folks that have been a part of this, but I just want to see if you had a message you'd like to leave with them.
Speaker 1:I'm just so thankful. First off, I feel extremely fortunate and try to be thoughtful about all I do. So it's not, you know, it's not just the books. Today it's the podcast and it's a blog on the website and it's a social media post, and now it's TV shows and now it's a nonfiction and there'll be other things in the in the future, hopefully, um, but I try to be thoughtful with all of it and um and for whatever reason that there's a, you know, there's an audience there and a readership there and I just feel extremely grateful to anybody who took a risk on me early on as a new author, especially with all these other distractions out there, and then told a friend because really, that's what did this?
Speaker 1:Right from the get-go? There wasn't, you know, I wasn't on Joe Rogan right out of the gate. Chris Pratt didn't mention meant optioning the show right out of the gate. I wasn't on Tucker's show out of the gate. You know that took a few years for anybody to say anything or to have really grassroots.
Speaker 1:From the beginning it was, you know, posts that I'd put up, or somebody picking up the book and telling a friend, whether it was at work or a family member at the dinner table or you know somebody putting it on their social media and saying to their 10 followers that they just read this book and really liked it and recommended it. And maybe one of those people then read it and then told their 20 followers, and then maybe two of those people got it and then told their followers and or friends or family. So I just feel so, so fortunate and and every that's why I try to I try to, as much as I possibly can, get back to people and hit that like button and thank people on the social channels, Because I really do feel grateful that that they took a risk on me and they've continued this journey with me, and then it just just means the world. So I try to.
Speaker 2:I try to let everybody know that every chance I get, well, it comes through. I think a lot of the people really appreciate that, that you are reaching out and making that comment, putting that thumbs up. It means a lot to those folks who take the time to spread the word. I think it's a wonderful community there. Leaving on that, you did mention the podcast and I wanted to talk about that real quick. Danger Close. Why don't you tell people where they can go and find that and then also what is the website they can go to learn more about all the projects going on? If you wouldn't mind sharing that in your socials, yeah, officialjackcarcom.
Speaker 1:That's the website. Try to keep that updated with blog and keep it updated with what's happening with the TV shows and everything else. There's a merch section there as well that people can go to. They can hit the podcast there as well. It's on apple spotify and on my my youtube channel. It's all jack car usa on the socials and on on youtube.
Speaker 1:Um, so that's, that's all there, and podcast is once a week and try to try to highlight as many authors as I can and and uh, just interesting people that I want to want to talk to. Um, but I'll tell you what it's like. It's. It's a lot of work doing. As you know, you're doing one. It's a lot more work than one would think and I've read every book for people who have come on thus far. So I think in 2026, I might have to take a little different tact with it, because there's so many writing projects that I want to do and I got a little behind this year and I think a lot of that is the podcast and as much as I love doing it, I think I'm going to still do it, but it might take a little different format going forward or I might scale it back a tiny bit, just because there's not enough hours in the day and I need to figure out how to write and maybe get a little sleep at some point. Sleep, what's that?
Speaker 2:Jack, thank you so much for joining me again. It's always an honor and a privilege and make sure everyone go and check out Terminalist Dark Wolf, august 27th. Cry Havoc, october 9th. It is October 7th 7th and I can't wait for everyone to check those out and I'll have all the links below so you guys can order your sign-through shot editions. Thank you, jack, for all you do, for your service and for continuing to spread amazing work into this world.
Speaker 1:We really appreciate it. Thank you so much. It was awesome linking up last year. Thanks for doing that and hopefully I'll see you again here soon.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, man, you take care.
Speaker 1:Thanks again, take care, see you.
